{"id":65,"date":"2010-09-18T11:00:46","date_gmt":"2010-09-18T17:00:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thrallatemybaby.com\/?p=65"},"modified":"2010-09-18T11:00:46","modified_gmt":"2010-09-18T17:00:46","slug":"ptr-thoughts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.bigdamnheroes.org\/?p=65","title":{"rendered":"PTR Thoughts"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve messed around on the PTR a bit, and thought I&#8217;d share my initial  thoughts.\u00c2\u00a0 Please keep in mind I haven&#8217;t spent huge  amounts of time on the PTR, it&#8217;s been two or three dungeons for each  class I tried, and some time on target dummies.\u00c2\u00a0 Not exactly exhaustive  testing, but enough for me to form some opinions.<\/p>\n<p>Mage (I used a pre-made, since my Mage&#8217;s gear is pretty bad since I don&#8217;t play her much).<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;The blast wave change makes me a sad panda.\u00c2\u00a0 Yeah, from a tank  perspective the knock back could be a pain in the ass, but, when  soloing\/questing\/PvP it was a handy survival spell for fire.\u00c2\u00a0 Turning it  into what is, essentially, Flamestrike with a slow, doesn&#8217;t make sense  to me.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212; I&#8217;ve only messed with the Fire tree so far, but, despite the BW  change, there are some nice synergies and buffs..getting Pyroblast as  our &#8216;signature&#8217; spell when you specialize Fire is nice&#8230; still has too  long of a cast time to be used for anything but your opener or when Hot  Streak procs and you get it for free.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212; For an expansion that is going away from the AoEFest that Wrath is,  and closer to the Single Target\/CC needed that TBC was, I don&#8217;t get the  overabundance of AoE spells in the Mage arsenal.\u00c2\u00a0 BW, Flamestrike,  Blizzard, Arcane Explosion, Dragon&#8217;s Breath (kinda), The new Mage Fire  Orb thingy (81 spell, so I couldn&#8217;t test it).\u00c2\u00a0 It seems like a good  portion of our arsenal is going to be unusable for a lot of content  (until we get back to where we are now in Wrath, with everyone grossly  over gearing the content).\u00c2\u00a0 We&#8217;re still going to be using  FFB\/Fireball\/Icebotl\/Arcane Blast, as our &#8216;main&#8217; attacks, so there  probably won&#8217;t be a whole lot of change in our rotations, compared to  other classes at least (from what I&#8217;ve seen so far).<\/p>\n<p>If I get a chance, I&#8217;ll try arcane and frost out, to see how those feel  but, at this point, I&#8217;d have to say that getting my Mage to 85, won&#8217;t be  a high priority (4th out of 5)- we get Heroism, but, everything else  feels like more of the same, only with less survivability.<\/p>\n<p>Druid &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve tried Kitty, and Resto so far on the PTR.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8211;Resto<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; No Tree form is&#8230; interesting.\u00c2\u00a0 The couple of times I&#8217;ve healed, have  been in the easier of the Wrath heroics, so I haven&#8217;t felt the need to  switch forms.. being able to see myself casting is odd.. but, at least  it means druids might finally be able to get those achievments that  require us to &#8220;wear&#8221; a costume that we can&#8217;t ever shape shift in without  losing it.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; My biggest gripe with Resto is that for years people have been told  &#8216;standing in stuff on the ground, is bad&#8217; for most fights&#8230; with the  addition of Efflorescence&#8230;. people need to stand in stuff on the ground  to be healed =(\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 Hopefully, Blizz won&#8217;t screw with us, and add a Boss  mechanic that has a similar visual appearance to Efflorescence.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; The LB change to one target only will take some getting used to.. I  kept trying to do what I&#8217;m used to, and keeping 3 stacks of LB up on the  tank + whoever was also taking decent damage.. and kept removing LB  from one of them.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; The increased Mana costs and, in some cases, longer CDs for our  spells, makes healing less of a &#8216;spam WG&#8217; thing, and makes you put a bit  of thought into it, to try and conserve some Mana.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Mana&#8230; my mana bar MOVES!\u00c2\u00a0 I had no idea!\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 ;)\u00c2\u00a0 On live, as long as  no one in the group is stupid, I can heal the easier heroics without  stopping and without my mana bar getting below maybe 75% over the course  of the entire run.\u00c2\u00a0 The healing runs I did so far on the PTR, the tank  tried for non-stop, but the DPS kept dieing due to some of the tanking  changes and not letting the tank build aggro, even with the &#8220;extra&#8221; mana  cost of the Revives, I didn&#8217;t drink during the runs, and still ended up  with between 25-40% of my mana left.\u00c2\u00a0 So, I&#8217;d imagine that come Cata  and the supposedly harder dungeons,\u00c2\u00a0 waiting for mana will again be  something tanks need to do.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;- Kitty<\/p>\n<p>Overall, Kitty didn&#8217;t feel too different.. my DPS was pretty low, but  some of that is because Blizz hasn&#8217;t tuned all the numbers yet, and part  is.. I&#8217;ve never been able to get super high DPS via kitty, I always  clip my DoTs.\u00c2\u00a0 The changes I&#8217;ve noticed so far to kitty, do make it more  forgiving if you don&#8217;t have the rotation down to the split second that  the live version feels like it needs.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212; Feast of Flesh &#8212; Should have been left called\u00c2\u00a0 &#8216;nom nom nom&#8217;, it was way cooler of a name.<\/p>\n<p>Like Mages, kitty felt pretty much the same to me, we&#8217;re still basically  rogues when we&#8217;re in kitty form, with the same combo point mechanic  (which Pallies now also get..Blizz must really like CP).\u00c2\u00a0 I think Blizz  spent the bulk of their feral time, on Bear to make the tanking rotation  something more than binding swipe to every key and sleeping on the  keyboard (just kidding! everyone knows you bind it to every other key\u00c2\u00a0  ;) )<\/p>\n<p>I haven&#8217;t had the opportunity to tank anything yet on the PTR..but hope  to soon so I can chime in on that side, but I&#8217;m concerned that this  latest attempt by Blizz to normalize rage generation will screw things  up as badly as their last attempt.\u00c2\u00a0 Right now, the druid would probably  be 3rd on my list (of my 5 80s) to take to 85 first and claim as a  &#8216;main&#8217; for at least the first part of the expansion.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212; Hunter<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; First, no ammo &#8212; YAY!<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Increased durability levels on all armor to match Plate durability =  Boo!\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 If Blizzard wants to &#8216;normalize&#8217; repair costs to make it &#8216;fair&#8217;  for plate wearers, there&#8217;s gotta be a better way then charging the rest  of us more.\u00c2\u00a0 (Ok, technically, this isn&#8217;t hunter specific, but I thought  of it while working on this part).<\/p>\n<p>-Focus -\u00c2\u00a0 Obviously, outside of the whole &#8216;No Ammo&#8217; promise Blizzard is  finally delivering on, the switch from Mana to Focus as our resource is  the big change for the Hunter class.\u00c2\u00a0 It&#8217;s going to take some getting  used to, especially until Hunter&#8217;s get aspect of the Fox and can move  and shoot at the same time.\u00c2\u00a0 As Survival, my rotation on Live for a Boss  fight is basically Black Arrow -&gt; Appropriate Sting, Explosive Shot,  Steady Shot, SS, ES, lather, rinse, repeat, and use LnL procs when they  pop up.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 On the PTR, because of how expensive some shots are, I&#8217;m  having to go Black Arrow, SS, Sting, ES, SS, SS, to get enough focus up  to continue the rotation.\u00c2\u00a0 I&#8217;m sure Blizz is still tweaking focus regen  numbers and focus cost numbers, so I&#8217;m not too concerned about &#8220;wasting&#8221;  part of BA&#8217;s up time by not getting ES up right away after it.<\/p>\n<p>-DPS &#8211; Numbers are still being tweaked, but for non-BM hunters, it feels  about the same.\u00c2\u00a0 BM is crazy right now on the PTR, with Kill Command  critting for like 12k pretty regularly.\u00c2\u00a0 Expect a BM nerf before 4.0  goes live, or, we&#8217;ll all be BM for the xpac, just like we were for most  of TBC.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Pets &#8211;\u00c2\u00a0 Blizzard gave some much needed love to the pets this patch..  giving each family a different buff\/debuff\/ability to make it easier for  a 10 man raid to provide a buff without a class&#8230; including Heroism  via the Corehound (OMG! BM will be a raiding spec!).\u00c2\u00a0 Hopefully, we&#8217;ll  get some more pet types to tame, so everyone won&#8217;t feel the need to  bring a wolf just because that pet is the &#8216;raiding&#8217; pet buff wise.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Trap Launcher\u00c2\u00a0 &#8212; One word&#8230; Awesome.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 Takes the Ice Arrow idea,  expands it to every type of trap we&#8217;ve got&#8230; so LnL procs can be  &#8216;forced&#8217; for Survival, without having to run into melee the boss to drop  a trap, will make CC in Cata 5 mans easier, won&#8217;t have to kite the  target to the trap, take the trap to the target.<\/p>\n<p>At this point I&#8217;d put the Hunter as 1st or 2nd on the list of &#8216;main&#8217;  choices, I think once people get used to Focus, it will feel like a more  appropriate mechanic than Mana.. and hey.. at least we don&#8217;t have Combo  Points.. plus, we get camouflage!<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Death Knight<\/p>\n<p>&#8212; I&#8217;m digging the change in the way runes &#8216;refill&#8217; now.. it takes a  little getting used to, and it is easy to unload everything and then not  have ANY runes left if you&#8217;re not paying attention..<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Runic Empowerment &#8212; WAY too random, having another way to recharge  runes is good.. having it be RNG over happening, and what rune it  refills is less good.\u00c2\u00a0 For Frost (which is my prefered spec, I like dual  wielding Tankards O&#8217; Terror) this isn&#8217;t as bad, because frost has been  more priority based then a set rotation for quite some time now.\u00c2\u00a0 For  Unholy, this is a bigger pain.\u00c2\u00a0 Ghostcrawler has said they&#8217;re  considering adding a way for Unholy to turn this off, because it messes  that playstyle\/rotation up soooo much.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212; Dedicated Tanking tree &#8211;\u00c2\u00a0 Boo.\u00c2\u00a0 This was one of my favorite things  about the DK, was that if you took the &#8216;required&#8217; talents (5\/5\/5)&#8230; you  could tank in ANY tree, as long as you clicked the Frost Presence  button.\u00c2\u00a0 I&#8217;m also not sure that Blood is the appropriate tree to have  picked to be the &#8216;tank&#8217; tree, but, I guess with all the changes to  healers in Cataclysm, it makes sense to give your tank some self healing  abilities to help keep himself standing.\u00c2\u00a0 I&#8217;d try tanking on the  PTR..but my tank gear is predominatly Naxx level, so I&#8217;d get pwn&#8217;d  pretty easily.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212; Festering Strike &#8212; This is nice, a way to extend disease duration on  your current target, that unlike Pestilance (on live), doesn&#8217;t also  spread it to nearby targets, thus breaking CC.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212; Unholy is gaining some nice pet buffs with SI and Dark  Transformation, that, combined with the talents to make the disease  harder to dispell, makes me think Unholy will end up being the PvP tree.<\/p>\n<p>Kids are calling, so I gotta stop now.. but, I&#8217;ll rank the DK as 1st or  2nd on the list with the Hunter.. looks like one of those two will be my  &#8216;main&#8217; to start Cata with, at least based on how things feel on the PTR  right now.\u00c2\u00a0 In case you&#8217;re wondering, my Pally is taking the 5th spot..  I can&#8217;t play a pally with combo points&#8230; it just feels wrong (no, I  haven&#8217;t actually tried&#8230; so, it might be better then it reads in patch  notes).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve messed around on the PTR a bit, and thought I&#8217;d share my initial thoughts.\u00c2\u00a0 Please keep in mind I haven&#8217;t spent huge amounts of time on the PTR, it&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bigdamnheroes.org\/?p=65\" class=\"more-link\">[&hellip;]<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"Layout":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false}}},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2BPLE-13","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.bigdamnheroes.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/65"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.bigdamnheroes.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.bigdamnheroes.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.bigdamnheroes.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.bigdamnheroes.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=65"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.bigdamnheroes.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/65\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.bigdamnheroes.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=65"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.bigdamnheroes.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=65"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.bigdamnheroes.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=65"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}